Yeah, but PR Beyonder had LT shaking in his wee booties. I’m goin wit Batman. Alien X (Ben 10) vs pre retcon Beyonder. One Above All (Stan Lee) Fulcrum (Jack Kirby) Living Tribunal. Brainiac is a hive consciousness that. Posted by u/galactusisathiccboi - 4 votes and 14 commentsLol at Battler stronger than PR Beyonder. Battle takes place in an infinite omniverse. 2. During Secret Wars 1985 the Beyonder wanted Rachel to destroy the M‘Kraan Crystal, which would erase the multiverse from existence. The beyond realm was also so large in size it made the marvel multiverse look like a droplet of water while the beyond realm was the ocean. Beyonder wins this, Lucifer along with his brother Michael are equal to LT, and PR Beyonder is better than LT any day of the week. @laflux said: MOM. Minor nitpick. There are some moments where Beyonder was oddly weak during Secret Wars 2, but his consistent portrayal was ridiculous. But if you are ONLY going FEATS wise, then Classic Beyonder takes it. Further to that; Odin, Galactus and, especially Beyonder, are all. . Now picture a third Brother that is so big, the Amalgam Brothers are 2 drops of water next to the ocean. LT gets rekt by beings above multiversal power, Dax Mandrakk was going to eat all of creation, including everything outside the multiverse that made the multiverse look miniscule. Both strike an ambiguous pose when it comes to creating a universe. Have not seen any impressive feats by the Angel duo. Location. 6 years ago. Forum Posts. 14 from eithe side. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. Copy. Current Beyonder should be very close to PR I'd say, they've established that the current version hasn't been retconned to a Ivory King and his final feat was leaving the Marvel multiverse. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. MJJ is top 5 in Marvel for reality warping, but he has very limited actual feats, but its. Pre-ret Beyonder was not god, and he was not TOAA. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine Pages@Pr_Beyonder said: " Remember Beyonder's omniscient so. Victory by permanent death or erasure. Molecule Man. Reviews: 0. Follow 3935. Having incubated within a specialized "womb-space" created by his progenitors for an unknown amount of time, the Beyonder eventually became aware. Marvel - Living Tribunal, PR- MM and Beyonder, HoTU MAYBE DC-Fully Powered Spectre, CA Superman, Mandrakk, Nix Uotan Marvel- Multi-Eternity? I don't know a lot about Marvel cosmics. @Pr_Beyonder: Yes. ShootingNova. Molecule Man : r/whowouldwin. This is way larger than the entire Marvel verse and DC verse. PR Beyonder is actually that powerful. Both equally were sharing same body as explained in mutant x #32. Im suprised that PR Beyonder isnt here. Although the Beyonder was retconned to a Cosmic Cube, he was retconned again into an Inhuman-Mutant, thus he lacks the feats. He was the TOAA of another mutliverse that came to Marvel's multiverse. @asuva: @takenstew22: @shadow411: Ren and Reinhard paints the Law of the entire reality itself. Another statement made about. PR Beyonder is on par with TOAA but people tend to put him below because TOAA are Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Forum Posts. Gen. Victory by permanent death or erasure. This is hard to tell. what happened in the last issue of Secret Wars 2 is not a defeat. R1: PRB toys with Class 1-A, turning Bakugo into fireworks, Mineta grapes, Tsuyu a real frog you get the gist. Follow 15044. Gokuisthebest. Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Molecule Man should also stomp IG Thanos. One Above All Wasnt around when PR Beyonder was, people liken PRB to what TOAA would of been at the time. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. 0. PR Molecule Man. Round 3 and 4: Same as round 1 and 2 without Infinity Gaunlet or Heart of the Universe. Mxy still bitches every Darkseid save for Infinite Frontier since we don’t know yet. PR Beyonder is OP, he was originally written to be THE top entity in Marvel, there's no real beating him. This is pre-retcon Beyonder. Unless its stated Some ware that PR Beyonder is TTOA or has met and defeated (even if its of panel) True LT or Primal Force. Reviews. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 10 months ago. Wiki Points. OrdinaryAlan. this would be no different than me or you creating a character and then saying "oh look he can beat Pr Beyonder". The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. Michael Demiurge. Nobody in Marvel or DC aside from the Primal Monitor (DC) or TOAA (Marvel) have the slightest chance against PR Beyonder. Join this channel to get access to perks:Credits to THZCheck out YFV (@YFVillainYT). No BFRs and the battle takes place in the forge of creation. No. Follow 10594. Based on physics, molecules, space and time. Pr Beyonder made LT his little bitch, along with everyone else in the multiverse. If that's true, the Presence would be way weaker then PR Beyonder. British_Tea_Company • 7 yr. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. Especially considering the only other times to my knowledge I’ve seen PR Beyonder has “struggled” in a fight was when he clashed with Molecule Man and when he admitted Classic Doctor Strange could have incapacitate him indefinitely. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. If TOAA comes to DC and try to challenge The Presence , TOAA will lose since he won't be omnipotent anymore. 815. He. The PR Beyonder saw the multiverse as a. Win by death, KO, incapPR beyonder's own assession puts him millions of times stronger than the multiverse. And how do we know PR Beyonder could blink LT out of existence, he could blink lady death out of. Forum Posts. As stated, numerous times throughout secret wars and in separate interviews with the creator (shooter) the beyond realm (and thus the beyonder's power) was MILLIONS OF TIMES greater than the marvel multiverse (again, Pre retcon this is ALL of marvel and. He swears he will destroy the multiverse for. Merely has ultimate molecular control. He was stated to be millions of times powerful than the Entire Marvel Multiverse Combined which even included The Living Tribunal and Molecule Man and We all know that Living Tribunal is almost as Powerful As Michael Demiurgos. Adam (presumably Gamora too) were outside his reach when he absorbed everything. Dr Manhattan has the power to control matter as well as subatomic perception and control. [deleted]@Pr_Beyonder said: " can't seem to edit my post anyway Pre-Retcon Beyonder and Spectre vs Storm and Batman is probably the biggest spite Hate to hate on bugs bunny but i've seen 5-D imps do. PR Beyonder is way beyond than Thanos with IG. I'm not sure that PR MM is as strong as TLT because even when PR Beyonder and PR MM fought and stalemated, Beyonder as stated by MM only used a fraction of his power. The only real threat to him was the PR Molecule man, who challenged him to a universe breaking smack down which was pretty much a draw. Follow 8935. The character plays a more antagonistic role in the 1985 sequel, Secret Wars II, in which he takes human form to learn about desire but threatens to destroy the multiverse out of increasing frustration. Dr Manhattan Vs The Beyonder. Crypto@daak1212 said: "@Danilo018 said: "@Pr_Beyonder said: Juggs has become a victim of the hulk affect and is to him former self as the hulk is to Bruce He is taken to neutral plane where cyttorak can. I don't know what handbook that text appeared in trying to retcon a retcon, but canonically, beyonders are responsible for the. First Firmament (Maybe biased)ALTERNATE VERSION: THE AFTERMATH OF SUPERMAN PRIME vs MONARCH: After defeating Monarch & the demise of Universe 51, Superman Prime senses that hisPR Beyonder should have no problem soloing, even if everyone else was in the other team. Morals off, No prep, random encounter, No BFR, The battle takes place in Tokyo, Japan. @laflux said: MOM. Thats why Molecule Man (who is weaker than PR Beyonder, but shares his powers) was able to fix it with little to no effort. Pre Retcon Beyonder is more a match for things like SCP 239. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. Discussion; Bug Reporting; Delete/Combine PagesRound 1: Thanos has 1 month. Edit: Oh yea, pretty sure that Oblivion is the one that. Minor nitpick. MM solo's. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. I need to know please New Comics. #1 Edited By bluepride1234. He swears he will destroy the multiverse for. TR was created by this. Posts. Post-Retcon Beyonder vs a Full-Powered Franklin Richards. edit3: There is one mutant whose ability is retcon. ago. " I agree for the most part,the way I see this. Round 2: Thanos has 1 year. Originally, the Beyonder was the supreme being of another reality, dragged into the Marvel Multiverse by a failed. Standard equipment. PR Beyonder > Ivory Kings. PM not so much. Their mere Taikyoku trashes on both Molecule man and PR Beyonder. Matezoide2. And the LT he beat was undefined. PR Beyonder was implied to be another TOAA from a different multi/macroverse. 8 years ago. This is a massive mismatch. Many People are Underestimating Pre Retcon Beyonder in The Comments but they are forgetting some thing. Marvel - Living Tribunal, PR- MM and Beyonder, HoTU MAYBE DC-Fully Powered Spectre, CA Superman, Mandrakk, Nix Uotan Marvel- Multi-Eternity? I don't know a lot about Marvel cosmics. Round 3: CAS and Myx vs PR Beyonder and Living Tribunal. 0. Beyonder was stated to be MILLIONS of times more powerful than THE MULTI-VERSE(at the time equal to OMNI-VERSE) COMBINED. He was always holding back, but it seems pr beyonder has issues with magic in marvel. 5 years ago. The Crimson King decides he's bored and decides to start trolling other verses. PR Beyonder was crazy powerful, and i have seen threads where he would beat thought robot superman. Well, uh. I don't think Living Tribunal was there, neither was oblivion. The beyonder can warp reality and time as well as creating a real life setting. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. Posts. 11 years ago. His isn't from another universe. I know that Krona vs LT already exists but i havn't seen one where krona has all the items and i think it would be interresting to see them battleTakPR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. #12 Edited By Pr_Beyonder @Crom-Cruach: Don't forget the regenerator G1 cell that allows Godzilla to regrow any amount of damage as long as he has regenerator cell present in his body,allowing him. Apr 2014. He was so powerful that nothing in the Marvel Multiverse. Share. Originally posted by Air Legend Beyonder in a curbstomp. Not only that, but the mirrors contained nothing more than aborted universes. She would stalemate the strongest nigh-omnipotents like PR Beyonder, EDG, etc. Kuuko273. Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. Forum Posts. Or that the enitre multiverse was stated to be a mere droplet of water. Lol good joke about Lucifer beating CAS. -You may take DNA samples from 5 different Alien Races from any fictional media. Pre-retcon versions of Beyonder and MM. The Beyonder is a cosmic entity of immense power. ForumsMe and a friend have been arguing over this for a long time,so we decided to make our own matches to see which of our favorites wins. master. Lucifer & Michael vs PR Beyonder will be a better match-up. Even with her 50/50 negated by her spear, Gungnir, Othinus is in no way comparable to the likes of PR Beyonder or even Beyonder post-retcon. So currently it doesn’t matter if you take PR-Beyonder or the current one, both are from the beyond - and as such subjects to the Phoenix‘ judgement and rely on her to exist. PR Beyonder solo with utter ease. The Two fight in the beyond realm. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. Round 4 same as round 3 the retcon happened for a reason. Battle takes place in an infinite omniverse. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. 0. And the beyonders are destroying the entire Multiverse with no opposition,so they have no equal either. Forum Posts. None of them have ever specifically resisted speed force speed stealing. Adm1ralSnackbar. PR Beyonder, on the other hand, treated Galactus like a bug. His will is law. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. When picturing PR Beyonder's power I always use this analogy: Imagine the PR Amalgan Brothers, you know, the guys that made LT and Specter look like ants. I don't think Oblivion can be destroyed. So yeah, this is the same Beyonder that had PR Molecule Man crying on Vulcana's lap and decimated the entire multiverse just by getting angry. PR-Beyonder easily, He was (literally) the multiverse outside of marvel, the beyond realm, everything was him and he was everything basically. 8 years ago. Whats the Greater Force of Power? COSMIC? or MAGIC? you be the Judge. BEYONDERGOD. Doom, and Constantine team up, trick Presence into coming to Marvel Universe where he isn't. . lazerbeak. While Manhattan is a multiversal entity tribunal is. ReplyFor this fight: PR MM was written to be above any entity from Marvel Ominverse, except PR Beyonder of course. HOTU Thanos. Round 3 Pre-retcon Beyonder takes this and with a good level of ease. He was not aware of other Beyonders and misinterpreted his personal universe as everything in existence. ago. (unless he wills himself otherwise alla Rachel Summers. I do not believe he was omniscient and that is a big difference. This topic is locked from further discussion. His. Pre-Rectonned Beyonder, the most powerful multiverse Cosmic Being Marvel has ever created. Basically this. vs Arioch vs Dormammu Rules: Round 1:Winner by death, surrender, capture, Random encounter. PR Beyonder's power was likened to an ocean while the Marvel Universe was said to be a drop of water in comparison. Hell is no where near big enough for this fight. The PR Beyonder isn't from the universe and isn't bound by its limitations. While still a child, the older Beyonders began their grand experiment where they. Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . @dami24434: cosmology expansion. Anime/Manga TeamSuper Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Elder God Demonbane, Giorno Giovanna (Gold Experience Requiem), Majin Dark Schneide. Okay I've got a theory, you're either a bot or a really young kid who's interested in Battleboarding and is just throwing random characters out to see what's happening. His power was millions of times greater than all of Marvel combined. Wiki Points. Also, what would you rank him as? A. dope matchup. The Living Tribunal was able to stop the Infinity Gaunlet from working, while PR Molecule Man stated to be stronger than all other beings in the Multiverse, Including Abstracts, and the Living Tribunal . PRB has a lot of. However, that is NOT always the most accurate way to decipher a victory. 0. The Beginners Guide To Comics:. Pr beyonder blinks away a nigh omni that treat beings that treat beings that treat beings that are multiversal++ level like an outright folder right? She basically controls the plot of her verse. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking…Marvel has only hype, pr beyonder is the only char to be so hyped he is seen as the strongest. PR Beyonder is literally beyond the abilities of all things within the Marvel-verse combined. There are like at least dozens DC. A fraction is still much more power than basic reality warping. I got this idea from the "PR-Beyonder vs Galactus" thread. So you cant say ToAA > Pr Beyonder. u/nullfather can attest to that. PR-Beyonder was broken, but still not TOAA. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. Michael and Lucy. The beyonders were stated to be bound by linear time. And the SCP verse is on par with the Dark Tower when it comes to sheer size and scale. EDIT: About Beyonder being gullible and "getting his power's stolen". Especially. Funny, didn. #1. @Pr_Beyonder: immortal means unable to die of age or sickness Thor isn't coughing on him or waiting around for him to age to death he's smashng his head into chuncks of mushy brain 13 years ago. So by definition, above any DC character except the equivalent of TOAA (The Presence. Goku vs Pre Recton Beyonder. @majestic99. Follow 3313. 0. 0. FinalStar86. Beyonder escaped. Since he knows past. @kingant27 said:. Wiki Points. Like, that kind of thing has to matter, if not, Flash can speed-steal Odin, or Galactus, or PR Beyonder. @Pr_Beyonder: We Never saw it's limits, But Aang used it to completely seal away phoenix lord Ozai's Fire bending and made it so he "could never hurt anyone ever again. Beyonder in a curbstomp. Warlockmage. The difference between that portrayal and what Pre-Crisis Superman was capable of is most likely over a dozen orders of magnitude greater than the one between an amoeba and Pre-Crisis Superman. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (33 votes) Lucifer 61%. anyways Q isn't omnipotent either and he doesn't have any feats that rival PR Beyonder so PR Beyonder. Oblivion is higher on the totem pole of power. PR Beyonder was the most powerful entity sans TOAA in the marvel multiverse for a time, he was pretty much able to do whatever the hell he wanted, telling The Living Tribunal to fuck off included. PR Beyonder (even when PR) was below full omnipotency, he got tricked by Doom and that pretty much gives it away for his omnipotent powers that should have included omniscience. There's a LOT of weird hax in Bleach, not even including Aizen. So, yeah, no worries there. he would get tricked out of his powers without having a sure fire way of getting them back like he did with Dr. The man with the blue privates exists only b/c the man from beyond allows him to. Fight takes place in an infinite dimension. This is the original seven and the battle takes place onWhat characters in the Marvel Universe could defeat Michael Demiurgos?Even though Pr Beyonder was published/written by Marvel he was not meant to be a Marvel entity, but an entity outside of the Marvel Actuality - in essence his own Actuality. All are child's play compared to what Bugs could do. "@Pr_Beyonder: michael created the but lucifer gave it form, basically its like michael has the universe creating energy but lucifer can manipulate that energy into things,. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. Not remotely. And how do we know PR Beyonder could blink LT out of existence, he could blink lady death out of. u/nullfather can attest to that. PR beyonder. PR beyonder. LT, Multi-Eternity, Death, Galactus etc. Bait? 1 year ago. 801. buster wise, and low level reality warper, that stuffPR Beyonder feats, Chuck Norris facts, Woody Wood Pecker whatevers. Doctor Manhattan is one of the most formidable beings around but his powers are all based on what it is possible. The heavy hitters for team marvel are PR beyonder, PR molecule man, post-secret wars III molecule man, living tribunal, multiversal eternity, multiversal death. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. Since his feats and stuff have. also, according to the bible, he can be killed, as the incarnation of Jesus, with a few spear pokes and soem crucifiction. Phoenix is on par with those guys. Wiki. 63 results. Marvel has stated that Beyonder is the TOAA of his own reality and the Marvel Universe is only a droplet of water compared to that reality or something to that effect. The Two fight in the beyond realm. See moreJoin this channel to get access to perks:…PR Beyonder was millions of times powerful than the entire Marvel Multiverse. Forum Posts. No chance of being omnipotent. 4 years ago. Manhattan has never shown any feats to even suggest him being at Beyonder's level. #1. Thanos with HOTU vs PR is still argued but do note all the cosmics were begging PR MM to fight Beyonder. 8 years ago. •Beyonder is infinitely bigger than the whole multiverse [which has infinite number of universe in it]. I hear people say HoTU Thanos = TOAA but I have my doubts, I personally think it's just a fraction of TOAA's power. It's pretty much PR Beyonder , LT & HOTU Thanos vs Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, full power Spectre, WF Mxy & COIE Anti Monitor , with a small assist from the rest of their teams . Beyonder was the one above all before TOAAPre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. 11 years ago. Neither is the fact that PR Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than everything in the entirety of the multiverse. A. PR Beyonder was above all beings in marvel. A universe that is more powerful. However, that scan of her being able to have an effect on PR Beyonder was pretty badass. Without the Pre-Retcon clause, Beyonder is ridiculously hosed, being outclassed by a Cosmic Cube. Nah, it’s generally recognised that PR Beyonder is above TOAA and the Presence. ". When picturing PR Beyonder's power I always use this analogy: Imagine the PR Amalgan Brothers, you know, the guys that made LT and Specter look like ants. 0. 0. vs. Composite Spidey is powerful but gets pushed aside first I’d say, even wit the powers of the Beyonder race. green_skaar. I realize the Presence is often considered more powerful than PR-Beyonder, but really, going to need feats in this case because this is not the Presence. PR Beyonder is the lesser of the two, so there we have it. He couldn't erase Death. • 1 year ago. PR Beyonder, even when defeated, knew exactly what was going on and even came back to humiliate Doom and show how irrelevant his plan was. In fact, God Doom, who possessed. PR Beyonder (Marvel) Takes A DC Gauntlet. This is a toss up. Pre-retcon beyonder 1 on 1. In your opinion, what is the most impressive feat that any character from history has ever done. He is overrated which makes people think he is this untouchable character but he would get smoked by LT. Follow 88. It has been shown that in Guardians of The Galaxy (1990) #49-50 that The Living Tribunal has judgement over the Beyonder, the same Beyonder people consider to be the PR Beyonder (PR = Pre-Retconned) which iirc takes place around the same time in Fantastic Four (1961) #319 or at the very least has similar continuity. So because of Doom holding back, Michael can win. Taikyoku is the beginning of all. The Demon of Elru. Mxyzptlk. Wiki Points. #1 KalKent1297. Pr beyonder, ToAA, the presence, HoTU thanos. Basically this. Adm1ralSnackbar. And Secret Wars Beyonder would annihilate all versions. Follow 8649. 1. #41 cdavis6149. The Beyonder is a young member of the ancient race of multiversal engineers known as The Beyonders, and by far its most infamous and well-known one. 14 years ago Lance. LocatiNew Comics. living tribunal could not do a damn thing 12 years ago. The Crimson King from The Dark Tower fights The Pre-Retcon Beyonder from Marvel. Oh so she was the woman people talked about when they say "Beyonder can't be defeated except by that girl who he. User. Ehh closest would be PR Beyonder I guess The closest would be geb i think him and the presence when combined are absolute infinite everything. Nihilist. And,DC cosmology is encompassed by the story of Superman CAS embodies. Elaine seems to stomp everyone else, but can she defeat PR Beyonder? Nihilist. deactivated-5e0e83bb0dbb5. Yes he is, I don't expect you to read comics to know that. Bleach should lose in nearly everything. 05-03. PR Beyonder 1B likely 1A. Yes. KingOfAsh. Holo-Man • 3 yr. [deleted]Join Date. PR Beyonder is stronger than all Marvel universe and its beings combined by far. Exists alongside all of Heaven in Creation inside of the story. He. Also, I'm using PR Beyonder before he was retconned into a cosmic cube. She/Her. Who is a better god like figure? This thread is archived. The Molecule Man and Galactus that Spider-Man defeated with the powers. Also you asked who in Marvel is more powerful than PR Beyonder, so there's no. #1. After his creator, Jim Shooter left Marvel, writer-editor Tom DeFalco, displeased with. The guy could probably trick PR Beyonder into. He dwarfed every cosmic entity minus toaa. Next panel PR Beyonder moonwalks onto the scene. Followers. Knowsbleed33 says: "PR Beyonder took out a group of Celestials with ease. 13 years ago. Beyonder wins against Manhattan. His weakness is a lack of understanding of. Pre-retcon versions of Beyonder and MM. He's an Evil Genius AND an Evil Sorceror who lives in a Dracula-castle.